Aspiration is a call to the Divine. — The Mother
Sri Aurobindo and Avatarhood 1
Sri Aurobindo was the last Avatar in a human body.
That is what The Mother has said.
She has also said that Sri Aurobindo would return, but NOT in a human body — NOT in a body born as a human being or of a human being. And His return may even be as late as five hundred years from his departure.
I have said earlier also that according to The Mother, Sri Aurobindo was an emanation of the Supreme. He was / is an Avatar of The Supreme. He came to transcend the Overmind consciousness and to cause the Descent of The Supramental Consciousness. He is beyond the Overmental Godheads.
Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are the trinity — three aspects of the Supreme. Just to represent one of them would mean that Sri Aurobindo’s coming was partial. His process is synthetic and integral. He thus represented the Supreme integrally and entirely. And He came here on earth to manifest the Supramental Consciousness, not to repeat the Overmind Consciousness.
Let us see what Sri Aurobindo speaks of two other Avatars, two other great Spiritual Personalities:
What was Ramakrishna? God manifest in a human being; but behind there is God in His infinite impersonality and His universal Personality. And what was Vivekananda? A radiant glance from the eye of Shiva; but behind him is the divine gaze from which he came and Shiva himself and Brahma and Vishnu and OM all-exceeding.
Similarly Sri Aurobindo, too, manifested the Supreme Divine in all His aspects, entirely, integrally behind Him. And His purpose was a completely new Thing: to transcend the human consciousness on earth towards a New Creation.
Sri Aurobindo totally revolutionized the spiritual world, the spiritual traditions, the spiritual manifestations. The Transformation They have intended to bring in beyond the spiritual Transformation — it is the Supramental Transformation. He and The Mother have done something which nobody else have ever thought or attempted. So it is not a wise thing to shut up Sri Aurobindo and The Mother into some old systems. We cannot forcefully ask Sri Aurobindo to remain limited in an old concept of Dashavatara of Vishnu.
The Mother has said:
One who truly follows the path given by Sri Aurobindo, as soon as he begins to have the experience of this path, will find it impossible to confine his consciousness to the worship of any god or goddess or even of all of them together.
Our purpose is to go ahead towards the Supramental Becoming and Progress. We are not here to confine ourselves to the old tradition, which is not correctly the Vedic tradition, but a tradition which grew much later than the Vedic period. We do not find all the Ten Avatars being mentioned in the Vedas.
Further, it may be repeatedly mentioned what Sri Aurobindo said about the last three Avatars:
Krishna, Buddha and Kalki depict the last three stages, the stages of the spiritual development – Krishna opens the possibility of overmind, Buddha tries to shoot beyond to the supreme liberation but that liberation is still negative, not returning upon earth to complete positively the evolution; Kalki is to correct this by bringing the Kingdom of the Divine upon earth, destroying the opposing Asura forces.
These are the Words from Sri Aurobindo — and therefore these words make up one of the most confirmed proof that Sri Aurobindo himself is NOT among the Ten Avatars. Indeed, He is beyond the Ten Avatars.
If the Words from Sri Aurobindo and The Mother are not presenting confirmed and solid proofs, then what else can? Words and books and chronicles from a person, who says that she follows Them but refutes and ignores what They have said and also presents them in a way that suits her, has no meaning and cannot stand against the Words of Sri Aurobindo and The Mother.
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On 8th December 1950, after the departure of Sri Aurobindo, The Mother said:
When I asked Him (December 8, 1950) to resuscitate his body, He clearly answered: “I left this body purposely. I will not take it back. I shall manifest again in the first supramental body built in the supramental way.
Can anyone say that this message of The Mother has no strength in it as an evidence of the Fact that Sri Aurobindo IS not reborn in a human body, after His departure on the 5th December ?
About the Return of Sri Aurobindo The Mother has further said as follows:
“The return of Sri Aurobindo very soon is not likely. His going was connected with world conditions. If world-conditions had been such as could so soon change and be suitable for his presence amongst us, his going itself would have been unnecessary.
“Also, the return cannot be in a startling miraculous manner. That would not be consistent with Sri Aurobindo’s method and our work. A more probable way of return would be: the present occasional visions of Sri Aurobindo which some people see — the almost material appearance he now makes to some people at certain times — may increase; the manifestation may be more frequent and more general, until one day a permanent reappearance takes place.
“One cannot fix the precise time of his return. It may even be five hundred years later. I can’t say anything, since the knowledge has not come to me. I only say things when I get them. This much I have said: Sri Aurobindo will be the first to have the supramental body.
“People keep asking me: ‘When Sri Aurobindo comes back in a supramental body, will he need to eat or drink or do other usual things?’ All these questions are silly.’
“Sri Aurobindo’s leaving the body makes no essential difference. Sri Aurobindo is after all a certain consciousness, the divine consciousness, and this consciousness was there even before the earth came. The question of his ‘absence’ has little meaning.
“A world war may destroy the civilization, but it won’t destroy the Divine’s work. Sri Aurobindo once told me that he had so arranged things that nothing would interfere with his work.” [Mother India, December 1974]
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A handful of quotes from Sri Aurobindo and The Mother, I repeatedly say, is definitely more powerful and convincing that any endeavour to misrepresent facts regarding Sri Aurobindo and His Avatarhood or Return. To a true and sincere follower, there is nothing more convincing and forceful except what They have said. Today I have laid down, more clearly, more about Sri Aurobindo’s Avatarhood and Return, what all Their true followers throughout the World DO definitely accept what The Mother and Sri Aurobindo have said in these matters.
In presenting these sayings of The Mother and Sri Aurobindo, in saying that Sri Aurobindo is the Avatar of the Supreme, but not the Avatar of a particular aspect of the Supreme, in saying that Sri Aurobindo will never return in Human body, I have quoted authentic and forceful and highly convincing sayings of The Mother and Sri Aurobindo.
I also hold that Sri Aurobindo has not been reborn as a human being of a human mother in a supramental body.
And I have no vested interest in this matter. I only serve the Truth.
And I am not pretending to be a follower of Sri Aurobindo. Sri Aurobindo and The Mother know the best what I am, and many of Their followers also know me. By using these words, none can stop me from telling the Truth, as said by The Mother and Sri Aurobindo.
I refer to these points as these things are said about me by Lori Tompkins, a follower of Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet, in one of her articles in Circumsolatious**, in a very aggressively attacking way, challenging what I have written in an article of mine, Sri Aurobindo and Avatarhood, published on in All Choice and Sulekha* and in Savitri Era Open Forum of Tushar Mohapatra.
In Sri Aurobindo and Avatarhood, I have said, in short, that Sri Aurobindo need not be one of Dasavatara of Vishnu. Because, He has never said so; The Mother, too, has never said so.
Though He is not less in that level and in fact higher. Indeed, I said, following The Mother, that He is the Avatar of the Supreme. And I also said that Vishnu is only an aspect of the Supreme.
Barindranath Chaki
22-10-2009
Simultaneously published in ASPIRATION, All Choice and Sulekha.
Links of the articles referred to :
*http://barinchaki.sulekha.com/blog/post/2008/06/sri-aurobindo-and-a...
**http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2009/10/sri-aurobindo-lotus-and...
That is what The Mother has said.
She has also said that Sri Aurobindo would return, but NOT in a human body — NOT in a body born as a human being or of a human being. And His return may even be as late as five hundred years from his departure.
I have said earlier also that according to The Mother, Sri Aurobindo was an emanation of the Supreme. He was / is an Avatar of The Supreme. He came to transcend the Overmind consciousness and to cause the Descent of The Supramental Consciousness. He is beyond the Overmental Godheads.
Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are the trinity — three aspects of the Supreme. Just to represent one of them would mean that Sri Aurobindo’s coming was partial. His process is synthetic and integral. He thus represented the Supreme integrally and entirely. And He came here on earth to manifest the Supramental Consciousness, not to repeat the Overmind Consciousness.
Let us see what Sri Aurobindo speaks of two other Avatars, two other great Spiritual Personalities:
What was Ramakrishna? God manifest in a human being; but behind there is God in His infinite impersonality and His universal Personality. And what was Vivekananda? A radiant glance from the eye of Shiva; but behind him is the divine gaze from which he came and Shiva himself and Brahma and Vishnu and OM all-exceeding.
Similarly Sri Aurobindo, too, manifested the Supreme Divine in all His aspects, entirely, integrally behind Him. And His purpose was a completely new Thing: to transcend the human consciousness on earth towards a New Creation.
Sri Aurobindo totally revolutionized the spiritual world, the spiritual traditions, the spiritual manifestations. The Transformation They have intended to bring in beyond the spiritual Transformation — it is the Supramental Transformation. He and The Mother have done something which nobody else have ever thought or attempted. So it is not a wise thing to shut up Sri Aurobindo and The Mother into some old systems. We cannot forcefully ask Sri Aurobindo to remain limited in an old concept of Dashavatara of Vishnu.
The Mother has said:
One who truly follows the path given by Sri Aurobindo, as soon as he begins to have the experience of this path, will find it impossible to confine his consciousness to the worship of any god or goddess or even of all of them together.
Our purpose is to go ahead towards the Supramental Becoming and Progress. We are not here to confine ourselves to the old tradition, which is not correctly the Vedic tradition, but a tradition which grew much later than the Vedic period. We do not find all the Ten Avatars being mentioned in the Vedas.
Further, it may be repeatedly mentioned what Sri Aurobindo said about the last three Avatars:
Krishna, Buddha and Kalki depict the last three stages, the stages of the spiritual development – Krishna opens the possibility of overmind, Buddha tries to shoot beyond to the supreme liberation but that liberation is still negative, not returning upon earth to complete positively the evolution; Kalki is to correct this by bringing the Kingdom of the Divine upon earth, destroying the opposing Asura forces.
These are the Words from Sri Aurobindo — and therefore these words make up one of the most confirmed proof that Sri Aurobindo himself is NOT among the Ten Avatars. Indeed, He is beyond the Ten Avatars.
If the Words from Sri Aurobindo and The Mother are not presenting confirmed and solid proofs, then what else can? Words and books and chronicles from a person, who says that she follows Them but refutes and ignores what They have said and also presents them in a way that suits her, has no meaning and cannot stand against the Words of Sri Aurobindo and The Mother.
OOOOO
On 8th December 1950, after the departure of Sri Aurobindo, The Mother said:
When I asked Him (December 8, 1950) to resuscitate his body, He clearly answered: “I left this body purposely. I will not take it back. I shall manifest again in the first supramental body built in the supramental way.
Can anyone say that this message of The Mother has no strength in it as an evidence of the Fact that Sri Aurobindo IS not reborn in a human body, after His departure on the 5th December ?
About the Return of Sri Aurobindo The Mother has further said as follows:
“The return of Sri Aurobindo very soon is not likely. His going was connected with world conditions. If world-conditions had been such as could so soon change and be suitable for his presence amongst us, his going itself would have been unnecessary.
“Also, the return cannot be in a startling miraculous manner. That would not be consistent with Sri Aurobindo’s method and our work. A more probable way of return would be: the present occasional visions of Sri Aurobindo which some people see — the almost material appearance he now makes to some people at certain times — may increase; the manifestation may be more frequent and more general, until one day a permanent reappearance takes place.
“One cannot fix the precise time of his return. It may even be five hundred years later. I can’t say anything, since the knowledge has not come to me. I only say things when I get them. This much I have said: Sri Aurobindo will be the first to have the supramental body.
“People keep asking me: ‘When Sri Aurobindo comes back in a supramental body, will he need to eat or drink or do other usual things?’ All these questions are silly.’
“Sri Aurobindo’s leaving the body makes no essential difference. Sri Aurobindo is after all a certain consciousness, the divine consciousness, and this consciousness was there even before the earth came. The question of his ‘absence’ has little meaning.
“A world war may destroy the civilization, but it won’t destroy the Divine’s work. Sri Aurobindo once told me that he had so arranged things that nothing would interfere with his work.” [Mother India, December 1974]
OOOOO
A handful of quotes from Sri Aurobindo and The Mother, I repeatedly say, is definitely more powerful and convincing that any endeavour to misrepresent facts regarding Sri Aurobindo and His Avatarhood or Return. To a true and sincere follower, there is nothing more convincing and forceful except what They have said. Today I have laid down, more clearly, more about Sri Aurobindo’s Avatarhood and Return, what all Their true followers throughout the World DO definitely accept what The Mother and Sri Aurobindo have said in these matters.
In presenting these sayings of The Mother and Sri Aurobindo, in saying that Sri Aurobindo is the Avatar of the Supreme, but not the Avatar of a particular aspect of the Supreme, in saying that Sri Aurobindo will never return in Human body, I have quoted authentic and forceful and highly convincing sayings of The Mother and Sri Aurobindo.
I also hold that Sri Aurobindo has not been reborn as a human being of a human mother in a supramental body.
And I have no vested interest in this matter. I only serve the Truth.
And I am not pretending to be a follower of Sri Aurobindo. Sri Aurobindo and The Mother know the best what I am, and many of Their followers also know me. By using these words, none can stop me from telling the Truth, as said by The Mother and Sri Aurobindo.
I refer to these points as these things are said about me by Lori Tompkins, a follower of Patrizia Norelli-Bachelet, in one of her articles in Circumsolatious**, in a very aggressively attacking way, challenging what I have written in an article of mine, Sri Aurobindo and Avatarhood, published on in All Choice and Sulekha* and in Savitri Era Open Forum of Tushar Mohapatra.
In Sri Aurobindo and Avatarhood, I have said, in short, that Sri Aurobindo need not be one of Dasavatara of Vishnu. Because, He has never said so; The Mother, too, has never said so.
Though He is not less in that level and in fact higher. Indeed, I said, following The Mother, that He is the Avatar of the Supreme. And I also said that Vishnu is only an aspect of the Supreme.
Barindranath Chaki
22-10-2009
Simultaneously published in ASPIRATION, All Choice and Sulekha.
Links of the articles referred to :
*http://barinchaki.sulekha.com/blog/post/2008/06/sri-aurobindo-and-a...
**http://circumsolatious.blogspot.com/2009/10/sri-aurobindo-lotus-and...
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Comment by Barindranath Chaki on October 27, 2009 at 11:51am -
This is the assessment of Patrizia by Alan Kazlev :
In a number of ways admirable: intelligent and original thinker, rejects cult of personality, doesn't abuse her followers. May have made some genuine insights and discoveries. But this is countered by her inflationary claim to be God (i.e. the successor of, and an avatar in the line of, Sri Aurobindo and The Mother) and that her son is literally Sri Aurobindo come again. Ironically despite this purported sublime status she still responds with very human and fallible bitterness and anger against the rest of the Aurobindo community for quite understandably not accepting her claims ;-) Even so, for me kindness to animals is at least a point in her favour. She has a small band of loyal students who show very antagonistic behavior (although not quite actively slanderous) towards even people who help them, let alone those who don't!
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Comment by Barindranath Chaki on October 27, 2009 at 9:36am
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Alan Kazlev does not accept that Patrizia is the successor of Sri Aurobindo and The Mother, nor does he accept that her son is Sri Aurobindo reborn. But he is curious about her sayings in Numerology and Astrology and Galactic movements.
Alan Kazlev says:
So the whole thing has been educational for me. I will no longer dismiss everything that PNB says the way I used to after seeing their actions on Auroconf. But having also seen the way they all jumped on Tusar on his blog, I really don't want anything more to do with PNB or her followers (although I may some time study her galactic alignment and numerology stuff for myself, as these two things I mentioned above has piqued my curiosity).
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Comment by kalpana on October 26, 2009 at 6:59pm - I have read Alan Kazlev's blog/link referred to above and felt he gave some fairly balanced comments about the issue.
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Comment by Barindranath Chaki on October 26, 2009 at 6:15pm
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This is to inform all that this essay has been posted by Alan Kazlev in Kheper Website. Similarly, Jordi Valero has also published this essay in his Blog.
The links are given below:
Alan Kazlev —
http://www.kheper.net/topics/Aurobindo/Sri_Aurobindo_and_Avatarhood.html
Jordi Valero —
http://aurobindoymadre.blogspot.com/
Many thanks to both of them.
Also, I convey my thanks to Kalpana, Mamata Dash and Gopal for their enlightened comments. ..
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Comment by Gopal on October 26, 2009 at 12:02am -
theere some more to it...
When darkness deepens strangling the earth's breast
And man's corporeal mind is the only lamp,
As a thief's in the night shall be the covert tread
Of one who steps unseen into his house.
A Voice ill-heard shall speak, the soul obey,
A Power into mind's inner chamber steal,
A charm and sweetness open life's closed doors
And beauty conquer the resisting world,
The Truth-Light capture Nature by surprise,
A stealth of God compel the heart to bliss
And earth grow unexpectedly divine.
In Matter shall be lit the spirit's glow,
In body and body kindled the sacred birth;
Night shall awake to the anthem of the stars,
The days become a happy pilgrim march,
Our will a force of the Eternal's power,
And thought the rays of a spiritual sun.
A few shall see what none yet understands; God shall grow up while the wise men talk and sleep;
For man shall not know the coming till its hour
And belief shall be not till the work is done.
i guess "I" dont have to say any more.... :)
dedicated to Her Feet.
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Comment by Gopal on October 25, 2009 at 11:46pm
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this is the best ever reply i have ever seen for such ill fated accusations.
the blog which was aritten condemning your article, was totally baseless. there is no basic understanding of Master's teaching and it is full of the selfish opinions. this article by Lori Tompkins is an example for the height or the abyss to which the egoism can take us to.
my grand father always told me that being devotees of The Mother and Sri Aurobindo is all about forgetting about one's "self" and being a part of the "Self". Barin da also used to tell me the same thing when i started communicating with him, and i was just blossoming and opening up to the literature of The Masters.
but these people are the very examples for us, after having misread, misinterpreted, and minunderstood our Masters.
especially for me...as this is something i felt that i must have known long back.
its not only these people who claim to be "successors" of The Mother and Sri Auribindo. we have discussed Sai Baba in the early days of Aspiration. there is also Kalki Bhagawan who claims that he is the Supramental Power descended as a result of The Mother's work. there is one mother Mira.
these people though had a different thinking. trying to downgrade Sri Aurobindo by making Him one of the Dashavataras. they dont even seem to know the basics of the Overmental avataras. these dashavataras are the ten famous avatars, and there have been many avatars of Vishnu. The Tirupati Venkateshwara swamy is not counted among the Dashavatara. The Chaitanya Maha Prabhu is also not counted one among them. like that there have been many avatars.
there is also one belief that anyone one who has fought against adharma, is an avatar of Vishnu. though it is not easy to realize the same.
and the very idea of their's is so wrong that, i literally laughed at it.
because the last avatar of Vishnu is Boudhavatara. The Boudhavatara, according to scriptures is NOT Gautam Budha. Vishnu's Avatar of Budha is known to be the Sri Vitthala of Pandharapur, in Maharashtra. whenever we are to perform a ritual, it always begins with a "sankalpa" meaning determination. during this sankalpa, we are supposed to "determine" that whatever the ritual to be done will done by His inspiration, and for Him. while doing so, one recalls the time beginning from Sri Vishnu as "Sri Mad Govinda Govind Bhagawato Mahapurushasya"....till the current date and time...which also includes the current avatar of Sri Vishnu. so it is pronounced that "Boudhavatare..." during this. so the Boudhavatar of the Vishnu is already over. the forthcoming avatar of Sri Vishnu is Kalki Avatara, which is yet to come, as per the Vedic Scriptures, at the end of the Kaliyuga. and Kaliyuga still has some 4 lakh+ years to its account :)
also with the Kalki avatara, the Kali yuga has to end, and the next Youga must begin, which is named as Kruta Yuga. one can say by the happenings that Kali Yuga is not over yet certainly. :)
what The Mother and Sri Aurobindo has started is a storming change in the Evolution. something which is clearly beyond anyone's imagination. something which has to be known. realized, only and only by being the same, and not by reading, synthesizing, interpreting Master's literature. Their literature is our guide. we have to use it as a Guide, without trying to interprete it.
and this is where many people do mistakes, by interpreting Masters in their own way influenced by theor own egoism and constricted vision, and not being open completely to The Mother and The Master.
i pray in Her that may such things stop and may everyone collaborate with Her, for Her, for Her work.
dedicated to Her Feet,
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Comment by Mamata dash on October 24, 2009 at 12:23pm -
Dear Mr. Chaki
You are absolutely right in writng this article. it is beyond any doubt that Sr. Aurobindo is not among the 10th Avatars of Vishnu. How can one claim that He has been born.. Mother has been born? It is utter foolishness and madness also. So we mst not be disturbed but it is good that you reacted and made all aware that all this is wrong. thank you.
Mamat dash
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Comment by kalpana on October 22, 2009 at 10:54pm
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Barin-da, thank you for sharing the very clear statements by Mother and Sri Aurobindo.
In particular, this quote felt most relevant to me.
“Sri Aurobindo’s leaving the body makes no essential difference. Sri Aurobindo is after all a certain consciousness, the divine consciousness, and this consciousness was there even before the earth came. The question of his ‘absence’ has little meaning.''The Mother
Those who are seriously interested in following the path shown by the Mother and Sri Aurobindo
will seek out the original words, intelligent analysis and deep reverence offered by Barin-da, the Sri Aurobindo Ashram and other Sri Aurobindo/Mother links suggested here.
Personally, I am not in the least interested either in those claiming to be 'reincarnations' of the Masters, or indeed biographers who miss the essence of these Masters' lives and teachings.
It is best not to get distracted - there is much work to be done. May genuine sadhana be strengthened in all!
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